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Conference Report
The Gulf States, European & North American
Law Enforcement Symposium
The International Perspective on
Law Enforcement Cooperation
Beverly Hills, California
3 – 5 November 2009

Conference Report
The Gulf States, European & North American
Law Enforcement Symposium
The International Perspective on
Law Enforcement Cooperation
Beverly Hills, California
3 – 5 November 2009


In a world in which international events have a profound
impact on local law enforcement, how can police
departments around the world work together to solve the
problems of local policing?

To consider this question, 60 members of the international
police community gathered in Los Angeles on November 3-5,
2009 for the fi rst Gulf States, European and North American
Law Enforcement Symposium. Sponsored by the State of
Qatar, and co-hosted by the Los Angeles County Sheriff ’s
Department, the French National Police, and the Los Angeles
Police Department, the goal of the Symposium was to share
individual perspectives on international law enforcement,
to understand the impediments to cooperation, to establish
mutual goals, and to discuss ways to increase cooperation
across national boundaries and police agencies.

From that conference, we have produced this report,
one that summarizes the key points and lessons learned.
By all accounts, an impressive number of the goals were
achieved, and new ones established for the future. Much was
accomplished, and much is left to achieve.

Note Regarding the Conference
Rapporteurs’ Synthesis

The conference organizers wish to recognize and thank
the conference rapporteurs, Ann Hassett, documentarian,
and Captain Karyn Mannis, Los Angeles County Sheriff ’s
Department, for summarizing the rich discussions which took
place during the symposium. No audio or visual recording of any
speakers was made during the conference. The following report
is therefore a synthesis of notes taken during the conference.
While every effort has been made to ensure the completeness and
accuracy of speaker’s statements and to capture the essence of
their messages, the transcriptions are not verbatim.

Conference Agenda
Session I - International Perspectives on Law Enforcement Global Cooperation
• Dr. Richard A. Falkenrath, Deputy Commissioner of Counterterrorism, New York Police Department, USA
• Emile Perez, Chief of the International Police Cooperation Department, French National Police, France
• Jim Chu, Chief Constable of the Vancouver Police Department, Canada
• Khoo Boon Hui, Commissioner of the Singapore Police Force, President of INTERPOL, Singapore
Session II - Professional Diplomacy and Public Trust Policing
• Sheriff Leroy D. Baca, Los Angeles County Sheriff ’s Department, USA
Session III - Religious Understandings
Islam’s Stance on Terrorism
• Dr. Khalil A. Alkhalil, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
Centrism and Moderation in Islam
• Dr. Mahmoud Alqashan, State of Kuwait
Radicalization and Rehabilitation in Saudi Arabia
• Dr. Abdulrahman Alhadlaq, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
Session IV - Law Enforcement Exchange Programs
• Sheriff Leroy D. Baca, Los Angeles County Sheriff ’s Department, USA
• Eugenio Pereiro Blanco, Superintendent of the Spanish National Police, Ministry of Interior, Spain
• Sheriff Gregory J. Ahern, Alameda County Sheriff ’s Offi ce, USA
• Julian Leyzaola, Secretary of Public Safety, Tijuana, Mexico
• Deputy Chief A.J (Tony) Warr, Toronto Police Dept., Canada
• Major Humood Saad Humood, Ministry of Interior, Kingdom of Bahrain
• Col. Humberto E. Morales, Jr., Air Force Offi ce of Special Investigations (AFOSI), USA
• Gregory Scovel, Acting Director, Naval Criminal Investigative Service (NCIS), USA

Session I
Perspectives on
Law Enforcement
Global Cooperation

21ST CENTURY POLICE agencies are expected to provide safety
and security to increasingly complex communities with
international ties. Global migration has created multi-cultural,
multi-lingual challenges in many communities, and police
agencies must fi nd ways to lead these groups in obeying and
supporting the rule of law. With tensions and confl icts high
in many parts of the world, it is essential for police agencies to
have a global perspective in order to solve local problems.
In many areas, tensions are especially high between Muslim
communities and those of Judeo-Christian traditions. In
order to successfully keep the peace, it is imperative that
police agencies around the world understand the cultural
differences that spark these confl icts, and fi nd ways to use that
information to increase the ability to police successfully.
Most law enforcement agencies in the US are quite small
and busy, with too few resources to be proactive in global
policing. On the other hand, the NYPD, like the other
larger agencies at the conference, is committed to global
interaction. Currently the department is active on several
fronts: participating with federal authorities in Joint Regional
Intelligence Center (JRIC); assigning detectives abroad
in a liaison capacity to learn about incidents on scene and
to understand what happened; looking to other countries
for “best practices” in order to improve both tactics and
community outreach; and hosting international meetings,
which puts the agency into direct contact with heads of state.

Dr. Richard A. Falkenrath
Deputy Commissioner
of Counterterrorism
for the New York
Police Department

We have concrete examples of the benefi ts of the NYPD’s
cross-cultural connections. For example, we have a population
of Pakistani immigrants we needed to connect with, and we
were not making inroads. We learned from our counterparts
in the UK that South Asian kids like to play cricket. As a
result, we created a cricket league for these kids in the Bronx and Brooklyn. The league is now an established part of the
community that links the police department with that ethnic
community. We meet the kids, we meet the parents, and we
have the pulse of that community. That connection came
from our working with our international partners.

“With tensions and confl icts high in many parts of the
world, it is essential for police agencies to have a global
perspective in order to solve local problems.”
- Dr. Richard A. Falkenrath, Deputy Commissioner of Counterterrorism
for the New York Police Department


Emile Perez
Chief of the International Police
Cooperation Department, France:
There are signifi cant obstacles facing agencies in pursuit
of international cooperation: state sovereignty; differences
between police systems; different legal systems; and the
language barrier. However I am hopeful that these barriers can
be overcome. We need new international cooperation. We all
need safe cities and we need international safety. Our police
speak different languages but we share similar values despite
our differences.


Jim Chu
Chief Constable of the Vancouver
Police Department, Canada:
We are preparing for the Olympics in 2010. We intend
to provide complete safety for the athletes and visitors
coming here from all over the world. We have brought
3,000 policemen to Vancouver from all over Canada. We are
looking at this as an opportunity to expand our knowledge
of international policing. Gang violence caused by drug
traffi cking is highlighting the effect of international crime
creating local crime in Vancouver. To help us, we have been
working with the DEA as well as our partners in Australia.
Another area we are concerned with is fi nancial crimes due
to the Internet. For example, we had Canadian telemarketers
targeting seniors in Florida. We must focus on working well
with other police departments from all over the world. We
believe in international knowledge transfer – in our training
facilities we work with police worldwide. Our challenge is to
Jim Chu create the environment where that can be successful.


Khoo Boon Hui
Commissioner of the Singapore Police
Force, President of INTERPOL:
We need to improve ways to think about international
cooperation. We must be creative, develop new initiatives
and best practices. We need to fi nd ways to improve upon
the INTERPOL model. It is important to send local teams
to international incidents and to help build the competence
of their police departments. It is vital to form new personal
relationships. We need to understand how to share with the
right people what is discussed at this symposium; who should
be included in this forum in the future? We must fi nd ways we
can institutionalize international cooperation – new initiatives
can come out of creative ways of meeting as in today’s forum.
These meetings look at the future and we learn new best
practices. Language is a big problem, funding is a problem for
these meetings. We must fi nd solutions.

During the discussion period, members of the conference made these observations:

M. Jürgen Merz
Federal Ministry of Interior,Germany:
M. Jürgen Merz, from Germany’s Federal Minstry of Interior
Terrorism and organized crime are imminent threats but
there are other threats such as child pornography and human
traffi cking. We need to be as open as possible with each other and
try to accept that we are different cultures. We must respect each
other’s differences and improve mutual understanding.

David Snowden
Beverly Hills Police Department, USA:
David Snowden, Chief of Police, Beverly Hills Police Dept.,
One of the biggest problems we face are different extradition
policies of other countries, which is an obstacle that prohibits
cooperation between law enforcement agencies

Keith Bristow
Warwickshire Police, United Kingdom:
Keith Bristow, Chief Constable of Warwickshire Police, UK
We all share the mission of protecting our communities, but
I don’t think it’s possible to protect just by policing. Things
happening thousand of miles away are affecting local crime. Our
challenge is that we need to be better at assessing the current and
emerging threat in light of the allocation of limited resources, and
we need to be better at information and intelligence sharing. We
must be able to share tools and techniques.

Saad Bin Jassim Al Khulaifi
Public Security
Administration, Qatar:
H.E. Staff Major General Saad Bin Jassim Al-Khulaifi ,
Director of the General Administration of Public Security,
Ministry of Interior, Qatar
The problem is complex between smaller counties and large
ones like the US. People don’t understand the complexity of
dealing with a country as large as the US. I have spent time in
US and I was fortunate to meet Sheriff Baca and members of
the NYPD and they extended their help. That is a huge benefi t
of this conference. Our job is to strengthen our relationships.
We must clear the picture and remove the mistrust. We need to
understand the attitudes of the different federal agencies. Overall,
we need more trust and more transparency.

Steven L. Gomez
Federal Bureau of
Investigation, USA:
Steven L. Gomez, Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), USA
We learned from the attacks in Mumbai that a lack of specifi c
knowledge of a country’s problems can cause unfortunate delays
in response. Threats in the US are going to be different than
those in other countries—we should know about different “threat
environments” and about our different capabilities. We need to
blend our capabilities. Often there are restrictions to keep us from
merging our joint efforts. Sometimes this cannot be overcome
because of governmental issues. The way to overcome obstacles is
in training and conferences like this.

Arif Alikhan
U.S. Department of
Homeland Security, USA:
Arif Alikhan, Department of Homeland Security (DHS), USA
Information sharing is one of the most diffi cult areas of
cooperation because we are talking about sharing secret, classifi ed

Gregory Scovel
Naval Criminal
Investigative Service, USA:
Gregory Scovel, Acting Director Naval Criminal Investigative
Service (NCIS), USA
The US has a tendency to over-classify information, and to
be oversensitive to secrecy. In terms of criminal intelligence,
information sharing at the local level is good, but not necessarily
at the national level. Cyber information sharing has new
challenges. We need a common lexicon of terms to interpret
information correctly.

Session II
Professional Diplomacy
& Public Trust Policing

Sheriff Leroy D. Baca
Los Angeles County Sheriff, USA

SIR ROBERT PEEL, the father of modern policing, said, “The police
are the public and the public are the police; the police being the only
members of the public who are paid to give full-time attention to duties
which are incumbent on every citizen in the interest of community
welfare and human existence.”
Police are a social and organizational force for trust. If the
community doesn’t trust the police, then the police must do something
different. When the community voluntarily obeys the law, then the
police are using a different tool for enforcement; they’re using interactive
relationships to change behavior.
Police are leaders fi rst and enforcement offi cers second, and they
should be trained that way. Today’s 21st century police offi cers must
see themselves as leaders. It is therefore critical for us to understand the
religions and cultures of the people in our jurisdictions so that we can
work together.
A police offi cer has to be an international thinking leader in today’s
world. The fi rst order of business is for all of us to acquire knowledge
and a vision of the growing diversity that each of our nations is going to
face. This is a fact for all countries.
Police offi cers must respect all religions, nationalities, and walks
of life. Our job is to make police offi cers feel important by fostering
trust up and down the ranks; communication up and down the ranks.
Police are in the business of sacrifi cing our lives for all of the citizens
of the US. When people are threatened by the police—when we make
no distinction between the criminals and the people—people make
no effort to report crime. Police offi cers must live with higher values
than any member in any one of our countries. Once the community
understands that police have reverence for their humanity and values,
then they will move in our direction.
There are 2 global policing principles: global police diplomacy and
public participation. Education-based policing will emerge – we will
see police as teachers. In order to achieve this an International Police
Executive Institute should be created. There should be an International
Police College for offi cers—this would go a long way to highlight
the importance of representing their country to the international
community. And a long way toward getting the public to police itself.

There are vast problems of information sharing among the federal,
state, and local levels. Private agencies don’t want us to share openly,
and the government doesn’t want us to share; the only ones who want to
share are us – the police. So we must face this obstacle and fi nd the way
to have the best security.
The public shares with each other through such venues as MySpace,
Google etc. We must learn from this. We must be prepared for private
companies who will take over some law enforcement responsibilities
(privatization). We must have a vision for the future.
Yvan Delorme
Montreal Urban
Community Police, Canada

I represent Mexico City, a city of 9 million people – the fi rst thing
we must know what is going on locally, in our cities throughout the
country, on the borders north and south. Until we can do this, going
global is not going to be possible. I have been Chief for 14 months –
80,000 men work for Mexico City Police, and we have a huge problem
with lack of trust in the Police Department and in the community.
Until we can get the public trust we cannot cooperate – it is not a
matter of helping a country through another country.
Interpol has a relationship with the federal police but not with the
local police departments. Same with FBI, they have a relationship with
embassies or politicians. We need international agencies to recognize the
local police forces. We should put in black and white how can we do
this in a black and white way – in a continuing conference.
Manuel Mondragon y Kalb
Secretary of Public Security
of Mexico City, Mexico

Keith Bristow, Chief Constable of Warwickshire Police, UK
In the UK everything important is not always measurable. Yet we
want to measure how safe people are. We want a diverse workforce – we
police diverse communities, and this is not always measurable. Having a
diverse police workforce is central to having safety in our communities.
Having a diverse workforce is not just a nice thing to do; it is imperative
to our success in providing safe communities.
“Having a diverse police workforce is central to having safety in our
communities. Having a diverse workforce is not just a nice thing to
do; it is imperative to our success in providing safe communities.”
- Keith Bristow, Chief Constable of Warwickshire Police, United Kingdom



Session III
Religious Understandings

Dr. Khalil A. Alkhalil, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia

Dr. Mahmoud Alqashan, State of Kuwait

ONE OF THE most perplexing aspects of the war on terror is
the misunderstanding that non-Muslims have about Islam.
Clearing up these cultural and religious misunderstandings will
be key in helping the West deal productively with the threat of
terrorism, and in paving the way for cooperation between East
and West in that fight.
To that end, presentations were made on the following topics:
Islam’s Stance on Terrorism
Dr. Khalil A. Alkhalil, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world, and yet it is
one of the most misunderstood. Although nearly one fourth of
the world is Muslim, to many the word “Islam” is synonymous
with terrorist. Nothing could be further from the truth. Islam
rejects all forms of aggression against others. According to
Islamic teachings, human life is sacred, and the targeting of
innocent people is forbidden. Terrorism is a deviation from
Islam, and fi nds no support in the Quran. Often overlooked
is the fact that terrorism is a greater threat to Muslims than to
the Western world. Suicide missions are a powerful way for
terrorists to cause maximum damage at the least cost. In the
future, Muslim scholars and specialists must focus their efforts
in confronting radical terrorist thinking among young people.
And, on the international level, world policy makers would do
well to avoid associating or negotiating with Islamic terrorists.

Centrism and Moderation in Islam
Dr. Mahmoud Alqashan, State of Kuwait
There are 1.57 billion Muslims in the world. And though
many people associate being Muslim with being Arab, only
20% of the world’s Muslims live in the Arab speaking countries.
In fact, the country with the highest number of Muslims is
Indonesia. There are over 6 million Muslims in the US. A
majority are highly educated, with a high number in the
medical profession and education. The word “Islam” comes
from the word salaam, which refers to submission to God’s will.
The 5 pillars of Islam are testimony, prayer, fasting, charity, and
pilgrimage. Efforts to strengthen the positive aspects of Islam
are best effected by concentrating on strengthening the family,
by giving education and support to families.

Radicalization and Rehabilitation
in Saudi Arabia
Dr. Abdulrahman Alhadlaq, Kingdom of Saudi Arabia

There is a radicalization process taking place today among
the youth of Saudi Arabia. Particularly successful are the many
radical web sites that appeal to single young men, providing
written materials, chat rooms, videos and tapes. Radicals have
been especially successful recruiting young men by exploiting the
mistakes and “atrocities” committed by Western allies. The Saudi
government is aggressively working to combat these infl uences
by monitoring these web sites, fi nding and prosecuting those
who promote such radical sites, and encouraging Islamic
scholars to refute these ideas in public debate and on the
web. Prevention programs are aimed at discrediting radical
theory, and promoting a more moderate approach to Islam.
Rehabilitation programs are also in place to reacquaint detainees
with the truth about Islam, that involve religious discussion,
study sessions, and psychological evaluation.
The full PowerPoint presentations as they were delivered in
the symposium are included with this report. These scholarly
presentations can be used to give viewers a better understanding
of Islam, and the ways in which terrorism is being addressed in
the Gulf States.

Session IV
Law Enforcement
Exchange Programs

Sheriff Leroy D. Baca, Los Angeles County Sheriff ’s
Department, USA
The theory and practice of police diplomacy is a natural
extension of what I call public trust policing: police work that
incorporates and encourages public participation in an otherwise
closed system.
Police diplomacy, simply put, is a police exchange program
where law enforcement offi cials from different countries crosstrain,
and share resources and experiences to enhance each
region’s public safety. America does not have a nationwide police
force. What it does have though are 19,000 sheriffs and police
departments willing and able to offer expertise in law enforcement
techniques and tactics successfully implemented here in the
United States.
The Los Angeles County Sheriff ’s Department has developed
exchange programs with our international neighbors for over a
decade. We have trained and been trained by countries on all
continents. This training has involved urban policing tactics,
intervention and preventative techniques, as well as technology
sharing in the fi ght to combat global terrorism.

Eugenio Pereiro Blanco, Superintendent of the Spanish
National Police, Ministry of Interior, Spain
Terrorism and organized crime are the country’s main policing
problems. We need to gain intelligence and develop different
strategies in working with other law enforcement agencies. We
want to exchange information, practices, and experiences. France
has been a principal ally in the fi ght against terrorism. We also
work with agencies from New York and Washington DC. France,
United States, and Spain have created structures to work together
to combat terrorism. In the European Union, the goal at next
year’s meeting is to create a structure to better understand and
deal with terrorism.
Eugenio Pereiro Blanco
Superintendent of the Spanish National
Police, Ministry of Interior, Spain

Sheriff Gregory J. Ahern,
Alameda County Sheriff ’s Offi ce, USA
We conduct an Urban Shield Program; the exercise is held
over a 48 hour period at sites that could be subject to attack
(potential infrastructure targets). Local, state, and federal agencies
are invited. This year, France also participated, while Israel and
Bahrain attended and evaluated the program. Urban Shield is a
disaster drill (exercise) that helps to build trust and best practices
between regional partners. Private sector also participates.
Products, technology, and equipment are evaluated. The next
exercise is in September 2010, and you are all invited.
Sheriff Gregory J. Ahern
Alameda County
Sheriff ’s Offi ce, USA

Julian Leyzaola, Secretary of Public Safety, Tijuana, Mexico
With a population of 2.5 million, and a police force of just
2,100 offi cers, our greatest problem is organized delinquency.
The groups responsible for the problems take advantage of the
economic situation and aim to have social status. The groups
have turned against the police and the efforts of the police. They
practice a unique type of terrorism: they target police in isolated
areas while off-duty. They follow the police and assassinate them
often in front of their own home. The police department has
taken actions to protect the offi cers: the department is divided
into groups of 3-4-5 in which they patrol as a group. They also
have obtained vehicles with new equipment, vests, and more
potent weapons. This has allowed them to intercept the groups’
plans and arrest them, and stop offi cers from getting killed.
International cooperation is needed because the groups operate
on both sides of the border (they go to the US to hide and vice
versa). The police department has been able to merge with foreign
agencies and cooperate so the suspects are unable to hide. We
continue to work on education and preparedness with the US so
their offi cers have a better understanding of what to do. The most
important thing is to change the mind set of the offi cers. The
principal problem in the police department is that many of the
offi cers were part of the criminal groups. They have identifi ed 470
offi cers that were working for the criminal groups. By exposing
the criminal groups, their social standing can be removed.

Julian Leyzaola
Secretary of Public Safety,
Tijuana, Mexico

Deputy Chief A.J (Tony) Warr
Toronto Police Dept., Canada

Deputy Chief A.J (Tony) Warr, Toronto Police Dept., Canada
We have a long-standing offi cer and training exchange with
the NYPD that has been very benefi cial. It allows for immediate
exchange of information when necessary, which is often much
faster than diplomatic channels. We have had other exchanges
– for example, Jamaica has sent offi cers to us and vice versa,
which helped us to make arrests of criminals who were hiding in
Jamaica. The RCMP liaisons with other countries but it is slow
for information to be disseminated to the local level. We have
been in discussions with Rotterdam regarding police exchange.
We have an offi cer in Buffalo working with ICE. We had a Swiss
offi cer work with us regarding child sexual exploitation and from
South Korea regarding traffi cking.
These exchanges have given us new information and
methodology, but this kind of exchange is very expensive. The
Legislators do not fully understand the value of this exchange. We
need to do more debriefi ng of intelligence offi cers when they retire
– we need more of this so that valuable information is not lost. I’m
a great proponent of these exchanges – how do we give the benefi t
of what we are doing here today to our other police agencies?

Major Humood Saad Humood, Ministry of Interior,
Kingdom of Bahrain
Our goal is to reduce crime and civil disorder. In order
to achieve this, we share information with neighboring Gulf
countries, and allies such as the US. We receive training from
the US (ATF and the US State Department) in such areas as
cyber crime.
Major Humood Saad Humood
Ministry of Interior, Kingdom of Bahrain

Col. Humberto E. Morales, Jr.
Air Force Offi ce of Special Investigations

Col. Humberto E. Morales, Jr., Air Force Offi ce of Special
Investigations (AFOSI), USA
Our agencies maintain offi ces in the Gulf States and Middle
East. We have a vital exchange program with Amman, Jordan.
This program allows our agents to work and reside in their
offi ces, so they can better understand the culture and investigative
methods to combat crime. Our agents get masters degrees in the
middle east culture – upon graduation our agents go to Jordan
get an immersion program in Jordan for 6 months. We have the
same exchange with their offi cers. That exchange program is very
benefi cial and is a model for creating future operating programs
with other countries.
We also host foreign military offi cers at our military academies
(West Point, Naval Colleges, etc) for a year or longer. This
provides continuing communication with these offi cers a base line
for communications. Perhaps this model can be transferred to
Law Enforcement.
Col. Humberto E. Morales, Jr.
Air Force Offi ce of Special Investigations
Gregory Scovel, Acting Director, Naval Criminal Investigative
Service (NCIS), USA
There is a long history of exchange programs in the military.
One example is the joint task force to address piracy. The
command rotates among the participating countries, and an
analyst is assigned in Singapore. There are mobile training teams
who train host countries. Teaming with host nations helps
us solidify friendships and communications. We can’t survive
without cooperation at the local and government level.
Following these presentations, many symposium members
talked about specifi c programs that are in place in their countries,
or which they would like to see developed.

Emile Perez, Chief of the International Police Cooperation
Department, French National Police, France
We hope to develop new ways to address our new needs and
new threats, and to be prepared with an immediate response.
We must start by having new training opportunities. In the
European Union, we want to deepen the relationship with the
national CEPOL, the European college to create a new culture in
policing. CEPOL is a network that does training courses - 1,000
a year. We organize a training course in one of the countries—
it’s a way to work in the culture we do not have. Another is to
put a group of offi cers in a foreign place; we do this in French
speaking countries around the world, and this model is working.
For the EU countries, France is offering training, which includes
joining public service employees and private companies with
law enforcement. This is part of the new law enforcement
culture—joining police with the private sector in protecting the
people. We have strong needs and we have a strong will, and we
need to convince the decision makers to follow the lead of the
police chiefs.
Keith Bristow, Chief Constable of Warwickshire Police, UK
We need a diverse workforce, because we police diverse
communities. All exchanges provide cultural learning, and that is
important. Provincial policing needs sensitivity to other people’s
challenges, and many offi cers are not exposed to other cultures, so
they learn from any foreign travel and training. We can also learn
from the military returning from overseas duty.
Khoo Boon Hui, Commissioner of the Singapore Police Force,
President of INTERPOL, Singapore
We have a very active training program where we do intense
one-day seminars and training. We work with Japanese police,
offering more economical ways to do an exchange. They can fl y
in for one day. We also work with the Australian Federal Police.
We run a program for combating organized crime. If you want
to come to this hub, we will give you access. Come be a part of
this training.
André Muhlberger, Director of Public Security, Monaco
We have a great need for good information. That requires trust
– intelligence and information – which is why the relationship
with someone you can call is so important. For example, there
was an armed robbery in 2007. We asked INTERPOL for help
and more then 40 people were arrested, and fi ve of them were
arrested in Monaco. It is the responsibility Chief of Police to have
these personal relationships.
Sheriff Leroy D. Baca, Los Angeles County Sheriff ’s
Department, USA
The Gulf States represented here are a signifi cant portion of
the Arab-Muslim states, and we represent a large portion of the
US. Together we need to chart a better message to the people in
our respective countries; we can’t just let the government speak
for us. There needs to be another voice: the voice of Professional
Police Diplomacy. Global diplomacy is not only political, it is also
professional. The nature of America’s foreign policy has always
been a military one. For example, the American police have never
been asked to do anything for the Pakistani Police. But we could
provide valuable support in training, and they need that support.
You are leaders in your countries. You can speak to your
governmental leaders about the police being national leaders.
I would encourage you to write letters to the White House
proposing an American Ambassador to international police forces.
To represent our voices, we need a White House Offi ce of Policing.
To what degree do you believe your country needs to have
national policy towards international policing? Perhaps we need
sub-chapters of INTERPOL, in order to have a policing voice
Until such policies are in place, be assured that the Los Angeles
Sheriff ’s Department will always welcome any request from
around the world, and share our policies and our technology.
Dr. Albert Carnesale, Moderator
Let’s summarize and discuss some of the issues raised at
this conference.
• Is there value in multi-national planning?
• What system do we need to share this information other
than meetings?
• What are the greatest threats you face?
• What kinds of exchanges are most valuable?
• What about the legacy question – how do we pass on this
information when offi cers retire?
• What can we learn from what the military does?
• What should be the interaction between the public and
private sectors?
• Should police to be a part of national policy making?
• What are the next steps?
Manuel Mondragón y Kalb, Secretary of Public Security of
Mexico City, Mexico
I appreciate getting you know you at the conference – it is so
important to share information on geopolitical concerns. Mexico
City Police department often interacts with other departments.
Our most important problems are armed robbery, contraband,
auto theft, and terrorism.
We should keep in touch; get to know each other and meet
again. We need to build a web and a continuing relationship.
The Mexican police and the city know the importance of the
exchange of information and the development of an organized
structure to incorporate new technologies. We are ready and
willing to pursue those things.
Gregory Scovel, Acting Director, Naval Criminal Investigative
Service (NCIS), USA
Information sharing and the speed with which we need to
share information are critical. We need to focus on the criminal;
the best way to fi ght crime is through interchange. Perhaps we
should do this in smaller groups, like Commissioner Khoo Boon
Hui does in Singapore. We can hold regional meetings.
Arif Alikhan, Department of Homeland Security (DHS), USA
We support law enforcement to law enforcement exchange,
local and international. There is a lack of understanding between
law enforcement and politicians and policy makers – this becomes
obvious, for example, in offi cer-involved shootings. Law
enforcement has been insular, but this is changing, and the same
must be done with policy makers. As you talk about exchanges
you should add government and policy makers to this. They can
be your best allies or they can be a problem.
Eugenio Pereiro Blanco, Superintendent of the Spanish
National Police, Ministry of Interior, Spain
We are in agreement that terrorism and organized crime
transcends all borders, because organized crime knows no borders.
The continued interchange of information is necessary. It remains
important to work together internationally but also nationally.
Exchange of information – information is power. Often we are not
willing to share this power, we forget that we are public servants
and for public servants we must have the interest of the public, we
are owned by the communities not the organizations. We speak of
best practices but we do not talk about worst practices because we
do not want to reveal bad practices. We must share this; it is how
we learn.
Other ideas expressed in the discussion include:
• It is important to see police offi cers as leaders. Law enforcement
people at local level need to understand this, and governmental
policy needs to be in place to facilitate more communication
between federal, regional and local levels.
• There is a continued need to create mutual understanding
between people of all races and cultures. It is our responsibility
to get this message to our departments, and to the general
• Police departments should make use of Muslim experts in their
areas, and be aware of cultural differences.
• What will be benefi cial would be to bring in middle
management - civilians who work in our departments - as well as
head of agencies.
• Budget cuts force us to focus on local issues. It’s a tough sell
to increase foreign travel and training in the current economic
Rapid and quick transfer of information is critical, especially in
the crime of money laundering.
• If we cooperate we’ll achieve a lot.
• With police departments, the exchange of information can
be with each other without government interference; the
interchange between departments can be very simple, giving us a
great advantage over other national organizations.
• How do we pass this on? Perhaps we need fewer senior people
in the room, and should bring in local offi cers.
• US law enforcement needs a voice in Washington; there is a
major weakness in this area.
• It is impossible to protect the local communities without an
international aspect – we need to understand information sharing.
• The addition of the Gulf States has made this symposium
very powerful.
• We need to find ways to link our already existing networks.
• Let’s keep in touch before the next conference – get email
addresses so that we can insure that there is some institutional
continuity. Keep the spirit going.
Sheriff Leroy D. Baca, Los Angeles County Sheriff ’s
Department, USA
Thank you all for the extraordinary effort you made to come
here and participate. We are your reliable partners. We appreciate
that the Gulf States have been a driving force in support of this
meeting, and it reminds us that even as we focus on our day to
day responsibilities, we must widen the role of police.
We ask you the Gulf States – how infl uential do you want the
international police forces to be a part of your policing strategy?
You have met some of the best police leaders in the world here,
and you are part of this leadership. You have an historically
important role in the world, and you can lead the world toward
peace. If the strategy of marketing world peace comes from the
Gulf States, you will see that this will trump any terrorist act. We
as police leaders can help you with that strategy. Take advantage of
this opportunity and decide what you want to do – the next step
is up to you.
How do we improve? One way is by agreeing that criminals
should not be protected by data systems. Criminals should be
exposed by data systems. Police records are number one in solving
My hope is that the Gulf states and the European states would
send a message to the White House about how important this
conference is to your country. Let’s support the education and
cooperation of police worldwide.

Summary and Questions
for the Future

Information Sharing:
Information sharing happens at many different levels:
among Federal agencies, between the Federal agencies and
their state and local partners, as well as across sovereign
borders. In some instances secrecy may inhibit the fl ow
of information while in other examples, procedures,
bureaucracy and cultural circumstance may be the
contributing factors. In any case, there is little doubt that
exchanges of a personal nature and cooperation by and
between law enforcement partners internationally is of high
value and importance.

Can the information from this conference be passed on to
our successors? Will the rank and fi le in our forces have
the same degree of interest in the subjects we are discussing
today? How do we create a sustaining level of international/
global dialogue while at the same time re-educating our
offi cers to think like independent leaders?
Are there programs that can address these issues?
Communication Systems:
Is there a way in light of our busy schedules and limited
resources to maintain these dialogues? How can we stay in
touch individually, as groups or as a whole?

There appear to be a great number of bi-lateral training and
exchange programs already in existence. Additionally, there
are local and regional training centers, some embedded in
universities that are promoting the international perspective.
How can we better organize these opportunities? Should
there be a global training curriculum or center that acts to
promote all of these opportunities? Consensus suggests
that training programs and exchanges result in broad based
opportunities to internationalize the participants. What are
the next steps?
Opportunities to Meet in Person:
Nothing can replace the trust gained from the opportunity
to share with your counterparts. How can we economically
continue to promote these kind of face-to-face gatherings?
Where will the second annual Gulf States European &
North American Law Enforcement Symposium be held?

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